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Binro the Heretic - 2022-08-10

Cops love killing dogs in front of the people who love them.


duck&cover - 2022-08-10

Cops didn't actually kill the dog. It killed itself later.


casualcollapse - 2022-08-10

Cops are like a box of chocolates


Lef - 2022-08-10

*****


ashtar. - 2022-08-10

The guy freaked his dog out by refusing to show ID, escalating a "hey don't panhandle" contact into an arrest and then resisting arrest. If you flip out like a big baby, your dog is going to pick up on that. They used one of the least intrusive force options available on his dog after the dog bit an officer and the guy refused to control it or calm down. They guy got his dog hurt, the cops did nothing wrong.


ashtar. - 2022-08-10

Also the dog was "killed" when, days later, the dog escaped the halfway house where he was staying and got hit by a car.

The dog's death is 100% his fault.

Full video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Taa34d1xF5M


casualcollapse - 2022-08-11

sounds like dog death is the appropriate response to panhandling according to you


Cena_mark - 2022-08-11

Well perhaps we shouldn't have cops harassing panhandlers. This is supposedly the land of the free, but you're not free to be poor. You're not free to beg, because bitch ass, HOA, Karens don't like seeing poor people and demand that fascist brutes lock them up.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2022-08-11

I'm sorry, but panhandling WITH A DOG is a whole different thing. That could come off as menacing or harassing to some, for sure. I'm not commenting on this particular story, because I don't have to. Approaching strangers on the street with a dog is probably an accident waiting to happen. There's more than one way this could go South.

Whose fault is this? My uneducated guess is that the responsibility is shared by everyone, except, of course, the poor dog.


Cena_mark - 2022-08-11

I've seen tons of homeless folks with dogs. Most the time the homeless person is sitting down with the dog laying right by them. I've never been menaced by a homeless person's dog. Get real, this isn't about homeless people with dogs, it's about harassing the homeless.


ashtar. - 2022-08-11

The dog died because he wasn't responsible enough to keep it inside. It got TASER'd because he threw a big fit and got into a fight with cops instead of just moving to the sidewalk instead of the median, and the dog predictably freaked out. He got his dog killed and now he's trying to get money out of his own negligence; it's gross.

I don't think panhandling should be illegal, or something that routinely results in citations or arrests. It seems from the camera footage that the actual problem was a safety concern of him standing in the roadway. He could have just moved to the sidewalk as the officers asked him at least 3 times. But I don't know the context and how much discretion the officers were exercising.

People complain about the police, but they're mostly just following laws passed by elected representatives, following up (as is legally required) on things called into 911, and trying to get through a shift without getting complaints. Communities generally get the policing they want. Only cosmetic changes were made after 2020, the homeowners who vote still would rather have cops be mean to homeless people than fund real alternatives.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2022-08-11

>>>I've seen tons of homeless folks with dogs. Most the time the homeless person is sitting down with the dog laying right by them.

Which is not the same thing as panhandling with a dog. I'm very much for homeless people having dogs, particularly after reading a review years ago of a memoir . I mean, I would want a dog if I were homeless, but if you approach 100 people on the street, at least a few of those people are likely to be intimidated if you have a dog with you.

>>>Get real, this isn't about homeless people with dogs, it's about harassing the homeless.

Hypothetical: A woman complains to a store owner about a panhandler. The store owner calls the police dispatcher who sends two cops, to enforce the laws passed by the city council.

I submit that all of these people, including the panhandler, have different motives, and none of them are necessarily sinister. Part of this is the priorities of capitalism. It's not so much that you don't have a right to healthcare, it's more that the right of investors to make money for having money outweigh your right to healthcare. Homeless people are seen as bad for business, and sometimes, they probably are. It's not about harassment per se, it's about keeping the profits healthy.

There may be some villains here, and maybe they're exactly who you think they are, but it may just be some fucked up shit that happened. I suspect nobody wanted to kill the dog. It's not like it was a black person or something.


Crackersmack - 2022-08-12

lol of course John is the one like "dogs are scary"


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2022-08-12

I didn't make this up. Dogs are scary to a certain part of the population, a certain part of the time.


Crackersmack - 2022-08-10

"Joshua Rohrer, a Kentucky Army National Guard veteran, was with his 2-year-old Belgian Malinois service dog Sunshine Rae on Oct. 13 when he was approached by police officers responding to a 911 call regarding his panhandling"

there's a special place in hell for people that call fucking 911 because a guy is being poor in public


Cena_mark - 2022-08-11

Seriously, if you don't like panhandlers grow a spine and learn to say no to them.


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