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SolRo - 2022-07-13

Surprised someone at a big corporation allowed a show to call out republicans for the fascists they are.


Crackersmack - 2022-07-13

lol who are the republicans? the seven? just homelander?


Gmork - 2022-07-13

On the nose but it seems like subtlety is a lost art. Might as well pound people in the face with the message.


SolRo - 2022-07-13

The crowd is clearly magats

That’s why it’s surprising that a scene so bluntly calling them out as murder-cheering fascists was allowed to air.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2022-07-19

Yeah, the Republicans in this story appear to be disguised enough to mollify idiots like Crackersmack.

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yogarfield - 2022-07-13

I still don't get the appeal of this show. It's like they piled a bunch of 4chan edgelords into a room and told them "write us Invincible or you don't get your chicken nuggets. Oh, and make sure that the topicality is really on the nose."


SolRo - 2022-07-13

Trope subversion is a nice change of pace.


MacGyver Style Bomb - 2022-07-13

You just described the works of Garth Ennis as a whole.


Jeriko-1 - 2022-07-14

If there's one thing I hate it's neuro-divergent edgelords thinking 'they have humanity figured out' and if you disagree you are obviously either stupid or a total wimp that can't face reality.

That is Ennis in a nutshell.


Cena_mark - 2022-07-14

Except a 4chan written would be explicitly racist, sexist, and homophobic. They probably think there's too much SJW stuff in this show


Kid Fenris - 2022-07-17

Wasn't Invincible already an overwrought edgelord piece? Superman as an asshole Boomer dad who kills a mountain of people and all that?


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Binro the Heretic - 2022-07-17

Ominman isn't Superman but evil, he's Vegeta, a super-powered alien conqueror sent to enslave the planet.

Invincible is Superman, the good-hearted guy blessed with superpowers who wants to use them to help everyone.


Binro the Heretic - 2022-07-13

I can't take watching the new season.

I can't bear seeing characters literally begging for their lives and being brutally murdered anyway, especially when they try to make it a joke.

Anyway, the show isn't a deconstruction of superhero tropes. It's a commentary on American culture using superheroes to represent various facets of it.

Homelander is (obviously) the military-industrial complex.

If you need a palette cleanser after "The Boys," check out "Superman vs the Elite." It addresses the question of why Superman doesn't just kill the shit out of every villain.

It also shows how Tarantino's speech about Clark Kent being Superman's secret identity in "Kill Bill" is total bullshit. If Superman wasn't really Clark Kent in disguise, we would all be fucked.


radiosquido - 2022-07-14

Homelander is a murderous psychopath with an inferiority complex who wears an American flag. The possible metaphors are endless! But I think the point of the military-industrial complex was that arms manufacturers would enrich themselves by manipulating congress to produce a bloated military.

Homelander doesn't seem to care about enriching himself financially. "I just want to be loved," etc. Even when he takes on the business responsibilities of Vought, he never gets past raging over poor approval ratings, or (literally, if you didn't watched that far) becoming erect over positive ones.

When he murders the protestor in this clip, he's acting on impulses he's long fantasized about and suppressed. And, lo and behold, people love him for it! The implication is he will now be emboldened to further acts of unabashed violence. Which is what makes it so freaky and enticing. This is clearly commentary linking MAGA (the aesthetics are dead-on, the slogans mildly altered) with frenzied, myopic, violent mob-rule overriding basic moral standards and replacing them with blind hero worship. I'd be surprised if we don't see a gold statue of Homelander in the next season that's reminiscent of the gold statue of Trump they had at CPAC.


Binro the Heretic - 2022-07-14

You're forgetting the "military" part of the team.

While the industrial part is happy to rake in profits, the military part is paranoid and fascist. The industrial part encourages paranoia because that increases the opportunity for profit. When the military goes too far, the industrial tries to cover it up or at leas minimize it.

And both parts are obsessed with perpetuating the public perception that they are necessary evils.

Homelander is an unholy amalgam of the industrial and the military. He created literal supervillains to fight to convince the American public to expand his authority overseas. Also, the most dangerous technology in the universe of "The Boys" was created by a nazi scientist who was granted amnesty by America following WWII in exchange for sharing the technology.

And Homelander falls in love with a LITERAL nazi, echoing the American military's obsession with the fascism of the nazi regime.

Homelander wants to always be seen as the hero and savior. He reacts badly when criticized and wants to violently silence critics but can't knowing it will hurt his hero image. So he directs his violence towards targets that are deemed "deserving" of it by the majority of the public.

At least that's how it seemed up until the end of season 2. As I said, I can't bring myself to watch season 3.


casualcollapse - 2022-07-15

hey bin you should still watch the new season


Binro the Heretic - 2022-07-15

Again I can't bring myself to do it.

Violence triggers me lately. I learned that the hard way with "Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness" and that was silly over-the top comic book shit.

I saw the scene where Homelander murders the suicidal girl and it was sort of played as a gag and I was like, "Nope, can't do it."


SolRo - 2022-07-17

I finished watching season 3 and it’s clear they’re presenting homelander as a version of trump, particularly the insecurity, narcissism and short temper, with plenty of fox-news-like segments calling things fake news, etc.

The whole season does a lot of call outs about the right wings decent into openly fully embracing fascism.


Cena_mark - 2022-07-14

Except a 4chan written would be explicitly racist, sexist, and homophobic. They probably think there's too much SJW stuff in this show


TheInternetisFullofGenitals - 2022-07-15

Yeah, this feels like a far cry from something 4Chan would write. I could see a case being made for the comic being something 4Chan would dream up, but not the show.


Quad9Damage - 2022-07-15

I haven't watched this show yet. I guess the time has been bumped up from the comics? The books took place during the post 9/11 era, in an alternate history where the Air Force blew one plane out of the sky, another crashed into the Brooklyn Bridge and the other was sabotaged in a total freak accident on the supes' part. The brain dead veep was clearly a stand-in for Bush II.

I guess it makes sense to set it in the 2016-now Trump/COVID/Q era. There's just as much potential for allegory now as there was back then.

Oh, and the comics were also total grindhouse insanity, typical Garth Ennis. Blood and guts and humping for the sake of blood and guts and humping.


cognitivedissonance - 2022-07-15

Another buzz show I'll finally get around to a decade after it's off the air.


SolRo - 2022-07-19

They might game-of-thrones the ending and you won’t have to watch it!


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