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yogarfield - 2021-12-11

zero ghost stars because even troll-edits of Joe Rogan are boring.

Five for the evil of living in a world where Joe Rogan has a platform of any kind at all.


SixDigitDebt - 2021-12-13

Right well, I know it's cool to hate on popular things but the JRE is literally billed as him sitting around just talking to people and that's all it is, yet people are working themselves up and giving him a version of the Nickleback effect.

Though I'll give this in fairness; Joe Rogan is an example of how a generally rational dude can believe in some insane shit.


Nominal - 2021-12-14

That's not "all it is".

It consistently gives a platform to right wing and libertarian horseshit, never challenges it at best and nods along giggling at worst.

To deny that the JRE played a big part as an early springboard to online alt-right culture is being pretty darn myopic. The absolute most generous take on the show would be "Alex Jones for potheads", which is still harmful.


and holy shit can we please retire the "I know it's cool to hate on popular things" ? Jesus fuck how many terrible things has that backlash to the backlash reverse hipster line been used to defend?


Crackersmack - 2021-12-14

JRE also consistently gives a platform to leftists that are ignored/scorned by traditional media, for example he has Abby Martin on regularly and lets her educate his huge audience about the occupation and apartheid (something that is strictly verboten on any of the traditional media outlets) not to mention Cornel West, Bernie, Snowden, etc.

The libertarians and conservatives that he has on for the most part already have huge platforms of their own. He's not elevating random rightwing cranks. If you want very carefully curated news that flatters a neoliberal worldview you already have lots of options for that.

And are we still doing the "alt-right" shit? I thought you all gave up on that. What you folks call "alt-right" is just regular old conservatism; it's always been crass and vulgar and ignorant. There is no "more respectable" way to be conservative. George W Bush was worse than Trump in a lot of ways.


yogarfield - 2021-12-14

Oh give up Crackersmack. If you don't get that Joe's an absolute moron that has fueled a "do your own research" generation because he's inexplicably the most successful podcaster OF ALL TIME, and that his show doesn't give a massive bump that leads to NYT daggers, I'm just going to assume you're back on your bullshit and not as dim as Joe is.

The only realness he had going for him was his side kick and some decent PPV commentary for a time, but at this point he could be replaced with a soundboard that goes:

"WOW"

"WOOOOOW"

"HE'S HURT!"

"WOOOW"

"FEINTING"

"WWWWOOOOW"

Seriously, throw that into 265 and 266 and people would have thought he was working the fight. It's ok to hate Joe Rogan, because there's plenty to hate.


yogarfield - 2021-12-14

Oh give up Crackersmack. If you don't get that Joe's an absolute moron that has fueled a "do your own research" generation because he's inexplicably the most successful podcaster OF ALL TIME, and try to argue that his show doesn't give a massive bump that leads to NYT daggers, I'm just going to assume you're back on your bullshit and not as dim as Joe is.

The only realness he had going for him was his side kick and some decent PPV commentary for a time, but at this point he could be replaced with a soundboard that goes:

"WOW"

"WOOOOOW"

"HE'S HURT!"

"WOOOW"

"FEINTING"

"WWWWOOOOW"

Seriously, throw that into 265 and 266 and people would have thought he was working the fight. It's ok to hate Joe Rogan, because there's plenty to hate.


Crackersmack - 2021-12-14

Actually the rise of JRE and the "do your own research generation" are both probably results of the massive decrease in credibility of the media in recent years, nobody trusts the traditional media outlets anymore for good reason. It's never been easier to find facts that contradict the official narrative now and this just drives people towards alternative media, and once they get there they find that they can immerse themselves in a bubble that reinforces everything they already believe. JRE is one of these bubbles, but imho substantially less harmful than the cable news networks. Joe Rogan is never going to manufacture consent for the Iraq War, for example.


yogarfield - 2021-12-14

Nobody is saying Rogan is going to manufacture an industrialized war. He is weaponizing "alternate facts". He constantly platforms IDW fools.

It's not hard to find real journalism, and boiling everything down "can't trust the MSM" like everything is FOX or CNN is disingenuous or lazy.


duck&cover - 2021-12-11

Remember that episode of Sealab 2021, where everyone's brain got replaced by a mouse pulling levers.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-12-13

The movie, or the vegetable stew.

Never mind, I don't care.


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