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Gmork - 2021-09-23

the current smoothbrain argument:

"LoOk aT bIdEN's AmErIcA"

i guess everybody forgot that the border patrol was always hated regardless of who's president because it's basically the real life version of the Watchers on the Wall, aka the rejects of the world.

Instead of a penal system, it's a place to put cops who the police unions don't even want reinstated, or who were never going to become cops to begin with. Literally people too dumb to be regular police officers, whose barrier for entry is already kept low on purpose and whose only real barrier is on the positive end of the intelligence spectrum.

These are the people who can't even jump the lowest bar.


Spike Jonez - 2021-09-23

It's also 150% worse now under Biden than Trump, so I don't know what you're trying to say here.


Gmork - 2021-09-23

I mean, can you at least provide a reason why you think biden is somehow personally responsible for this specific action? Or was this your chance to just spew generalities


Nominal - 2021-09-23

Just the usual dumb dick piss brigade spew.

They wanted Trump to be president the way rapture Christians pray for the anti-christ to come start WW3.


Crackersmack - 2021-09-23

I love nothing more that liberals with full control of the federal government pretending that their president is just a powerless baby figurehead. I thought we were done with that when Obama retired to that ugly mansion.

And when Tom Cotton of Josh Hawley is elected in 2024 and governs exactly like Biden does we'll be back to the president being a monsterous dictator that was installed by Putin himself.


casualcollapse - 2021-09-23

Wow didn't know you were GQP Spike.. luckily enough it looks like the problem is going to take care of itself https://ibb.co/fqFwgsc


glasseye - 2021-09-23

Yeah, the border patrol is shit. It's also under the executive branch, which you might notice Biden controls.

If Biden wasn't such a garbage human being, he'd dissolve DHS entirely.


glasseye - 2021-09-23

Also, Biden's DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas is the origin of the utterly insane response that "they aren't using whips, they're just hitting the refugees with their split reins!"

Split reins being 7-8 foot long leather things, which are indistinguishable from whips when used in this manner.


glasseye - 2021-09-23

Oh, and Biden's administration is literally going to court to preserve Trump's immigration policies.


glasseye - 2021-09-23

And JFC, are you folks really that invested in the duopoly that you cannot imagine someone being against bad policies regardless of who implements them?


Binro the Heretic - 2021-09-23

While things haven't gotten worse under Biden, they haven't gotten any better.


Crackersmack - 2021-09-23

before you declare that things haven't gotten worse, google "title 42 deportations Trump compared to Biden" with the understanding that using Title 42 to deport migrants was Stephen Miller's idea and was shocking in it's racism even to Trump administration officials


Hazelnut - 2021-09-24

There are two possible reactions to the horror on display in this video:

1) This is horrible, what can we do to help put a stop to it?

2) Oooh, wonderful, another occastion for pro-Trump trolling!

#2 is shit. So to speak.


Crackersmack - 2021-09-24

you're picking option three, which is "pretend that nothing can be done about this to protect the reputation of may favorite celebrity politicians" which is by far the most pathetic and cucked option


glasseye - 2021-09-24

Thinking that any criticism of Biden means someone is pro-Trump must be the result of some super intense brain worms.


Hazelnut - 2021-09-25

@Crackersmack: filtered, zero credibility troll.

@glasseye: that’s 100% fair and I completely agree. The Biden admin fucked up bad here, this should not have been allowed to happen and the buck stops at the chief executive. (Biden Admin also fucked up the Afghanistan withdrawal.) So now that we’ve established that, enough with the Trump memes and lets talk about how to affect change. What are you doing to lobby the Democratic party or support an alternative?


Hazelnut - 2021-09-25

Oh, and you know who agrees? Joe Biden!

"I take responsibility," Mr Biden told reporters at the White House on Friday. "It was horrible to see, to see people treated like they did, with horses nearly running them over. People being strapped. It's outrageous."

In his first public remarks on the situation in Del Rio, Texas - where thousands of mostly Haitian migrants massed this week - Mr Biden added: "I promise you those people will pay. They will be investigated. There will be consequences."

https://tinyurl.com/mktjdkcm


glasseye - 2021-09-25

You keep saying "trump memes" as if someone is actually posting them; I certainly am not. Fuck Trump; he's just as bad as Biden.

And of course he held a press conference where he said things that look like he's condemning this. That's what those in power always do. Meanwhile he continues to deport thousands of refugees and is even setting up a fucking concentration camp in Guantanamo for some of them.

I lobbied the Democrats for twenty years, and it didn't change a goddamn thing. You know why? Because they have zero impetus to listen to folks like us. If you aren't writing big checks, they just do not care. And why would they?

I focus my efforts on making change locally. In just a few years I've been able to do far more good than all those years of wasted effort when I engaged with electoral politics.

So no, fuck the Democrats, fuck the Republicans. They're all fucking monsters, and mealy mouthed bullshit like what Biden said won't change my mind. Action might, but you and I know they'll never do what needs to be done. Their capitalist overlords won't let them.


Hazelnut - 2021-09-26

I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to suggest that you personally are pushing Trump memes. I honestly don’t know if you are or you aren’t. If you are suggesting that dEmoCRatS and REpuBliCanS aRE ThE sAMe, I heartily disagree. If you arr actively working to effect good local change, I heartily applaud.


glasseye - 2021-09-27

Apology accepted.

As I have said over and over again, Trump is also garbage. I criticize Biden *from the left*, and while Democrats and Republican do look an awful lot alike to me (they both enthusiastically support the police state, capitalism, etc), they are differently awful.


glasseye - 2021-09-23

If only the democrats controlled congress, they might be able to dismantle this and close our concentration camps.

Oh that's right, they do control congress. They don't want to do these things because they are also utter garbage and are indistinguishable from republicans.


casualcollapse - 2021-09-23

They all take money from the same companies so you are right there


Binro the Heretic - 2021-09-23

This is the weak-ass Democratic version of voter suppression.

Rather than being proactive and trying to directly disenfranchise GOP voters, they try to be "moderate" enough that complacent GOP voters will stay home on election day.

"Well, I don't really like the Democrats... but they are letting rich people have tax breaks and they're keeping brown people out of the country. so I guess I don't hate them enough to stand in line for an hour to vote."


Nominal - 2021-09-23

Your idea of voter suppression is as dumb as your "Biden is just as bad as Trump" prognosis.


Binro the Heretic - 2021-09-24

I never said Biden was as bad as Trump, just that the immigrations situation under Biden hasn't gotten any better.

Biden's not as bad as Trump, but that's a pretty low bar to clear.

Saying Biden is as bad as Trump is like saying a pile of manure is just as bad to throw on a grease as a bucket of kerosene. Neither is ideal, but only one sort of solves the problem.


glasseye - 2021-09-24

Biden is differently awful from Trump. He's a real piece of shit, but at least he's slightly less of a fascist?


Hazelnut - 2021-09-25

Anyone who says “the Democrats control Congress” with a straight face either doesn’t understand the Constitution or is being deliberately disingenuous.


glasseye - 2021-09-25

Stop gaslighting, Hazlenut.

US House: 220 D to 212 R
US Senate: tied 50-50, with the VP casting a tie breaking vote

Numbers don't lie. The only thing stopping the Democrats is their own ineptness.


SolRo - 2021-09-25

You cannot change non-fiscal policy in the senate without 60 votes

You cannot get rid of the filibuster without the support of the two Republican-lite dem senators

Effectively the dems do not have full control of the senate


Hazelnut - 2021-09-26

Glasseye, whether deliberate or not, there’s a LOT of irony in your use of the word ‘gaslighting’. Even racist clown SolRo saw right through that. If you want to convince people you can do it more effectively by limiting yourself to good faith arguments.

It is valid and fair to say the Biden Administration is responsible because it is the Executive branch.

It is bad faith and convinces nobody to say the Dems control Congress when the Constitution makes zero provision for a party ‘controlling’ the legislature, each representative votes separately, and the Dem majority is razor thin.


glasseye - 2021-09-26

Also, stop patronizing, Hazlenut. If you want to convince people you can do it more effectively by not being such a sanctimonious piece of shit.

Of course the dems have excuses about how they can't get anything done. I'm sure the same argument will make you real happy when the republicans take control with similar margins and somehow pass a bunch of horrific shit.


Hazelnut - 2021-09-26

Well, so much for trying to engage with you as a rational person.


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