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GravidWithHate - 2018-11-04

My first thought at least was that the material looks very thin for most applications where you'd use leather. That said, it'd be interesting to do some durability testing and strength testing vs. leather; and they may be able to laminate sheets of it together to wind up with a thicker sheet.


casualcollapse - 2018-11-05

I have a feeling that the people that drink kombucha don't approve of the plastic used in laminating.


Binro the Heretic - 2018-11-04

Nobody will want to wear leather that's not made from a creature that feels pain.


cognitivedissonance - 2018-11-05

I’ve never understood this level of veganism... are bacteria animals? Do we stop accounting on the prokaryotic level? If the bacteria had a nucleus would it be vegan? Is it still a moral choice if microscopes are required to understand it? If the appeal to leather is purely aesthetic, why encourage envy by manufacturing vegan alternatives?

When secular Protestantism is rolled in on itself like a croissant dough.


poorwill - 2018-11-05

Bacteria is fuckin everywhere, including your stomach, so you couldn't avoid eating it even if you wanted to. It also doesn't feel pain so there's that too. Personally, I would like to wear leather that is still alive - like Venom, only it's a slime cow.


Old_Zircon - 2018-11-05

I wear a tacky late 70s leather jacket that I got a t thrift shop almost a decade ago. It's the warmest jacket I've ever had and is basically indestructible. I've walked miles in the poring rain in it and it didn't even leave a mark. Other than a couple spots where the inner lining is wearing, it looks almost new even though it's at least 33 years old (the company went out of business in 1985) but probably more like 40-45. In the coldest parts of the winter I'll put a wool sweater on under it, but I haven't needed a winter jacket in years - that combination is fine right down into sub zero temperatures as long as I have a good scarf and hat.


The point is, I consider it a lot more ecologically sound to have a single piece of animal skin that could easily outlive me than to get a new jacket (that is most likely literally made out of oil, and even if it was some kind of sustainable material still took a lot of fossil fuels to manufacture and transport) every couple of years because the old one wore out. And when it finally does hit the end of its usable life it will actually break down, unlike synthetic fabrics. Also I'm poor and can't afford to be getting a new jacket every few years.

Same thing with boots. A decent pair of leather boots will easily last 4-5 years without any attention at all and longer if you actually care for them (other than the soles, unfortunately, so you need to get a pair that's made to be easily resoled, and preferably something without lining because that also wears out fast - just wax the seams and wear good wool socks and you'll be fine). Almost all non-leather boots cost the same, fall apart a lot faster, and are literally made of plastic.




There are a lot of totally legitimate ethical and environmental concerns about the animal product industries but it's all complicated and ambiguous.



Also paper straws have a bigger environmental impact than the plastic kind.


Old_Zircon - 2018-11-05

If this stuff works, then that's cool.

Nobody has come up with a good glue that can come close to the performance of hide glues yet, though.


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