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Desc:Some people legitimately think the moon's only as big as total darkness area during an eclipse.
Category:Science & Technology, Educational
Tags:NASA, tinfoil, conspiracy theory, Solar Eclipse
Submitted:sasazuka
Date:08/10/17
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sasazuka - 2017-08-10

In case you don't understand solar eclipse umbra (total) and penumbra (partial) shadows and why the umbra is tiny compared to the diameter of the moon, here's a simple primer.

http://www.mreclipse.com/Special/SEprimer.html

Needless to say, most of the people pushing "tiny moon theory" are Flat Earthers unfamiliar with simple geometry.


cognitivedissonance - 2017-08-11

I didn't believe they existed until I discovered I had a coworker who was a true believer. I asked him how if the earth was flat, we know it's nighttime on the other side of the planet, and his response was "They're lying."


Oscar Wildcat - 2017-08-11

Same here. Guy I've known for some time. It's a more recent obsession, and it bodes ill for the man.


Gmork - 2017-08-11

Oh jesus. You guys met ones in REAL LIFE? For fucks' sake.


Gypsy_Dildo_Factory - 2019-04-17

I once lived on the 3rd floor of an abandoned shoe factory above the floor where government-seized tobacco was stored-- 3 people of 11 total there believed the earth was flat (possibly 4*.) One of them came over to my room very excited because he thought he'd independently found accidental youtube video proving it all. It betrayed shadow casting near the South Pole over 24 hours looking exactly like it should look to you and I. He had a globe and a flashlight both within 20ft of the computer even but he got angry before I could use these for demonstration.

*possibly 4 even, or even everyone was lying. But early into my awareness of it I had a little hope that it was all a troll, and that hope was crushed (as with bronies.) There used to be a Flat Earth Society that really was a joke-- a science teacher even told me about it in the 1990's and I think it dates back to the 70's.


Gypsy_Dildo_Factory - 2019-04-17

^^^^ The teacher had been trolled by the Flat Earth Society in the 1990's, when he told us about its existence, that is. Or he just wanted to see how we reacted.


fedex - 2017-08-11

yeah they are out there, I've met a couple, who were both ardent chemtrailers too FWIW


Robin Kestrel - 2017-08-11

Oh shit, he found out about our secret Black Magic Mega-Ritual plans!


Binro the Heretic - 2017-08-11

But if the moon is hollow, shouldn't there be a light spot in the middle of the shadow where the sun comes through a little bit?


Mr. Purple Cat Esq. - 2017-08-11

This is just like that recent tv-show 'hacking' scene. Nonsensical fun.

But this pisses me off. I suppose because this is not a tv show.
Like the hacking thing, where does one even begin or end in critiquing this?

I think what actually gets to me though is how fucking lazy this guy is.
Questioning fundamental things is *good*, but he applies *zero* effort. Just fucks about on the net and googles a few things which he doesnt have the patience to read or attempt to understand. If he wanted he could build a telescope and perform experiments and observations that the ancient greeks did and try and *actually* figure out what is going on, but nah he just skips to concluding whatever other crap he saw on a message board is the answer.


infinite zest - 2017-08-11

Lazy? He's flying a fucking jet plane while YT blogging!


cognitivedissonance - 2017-08-11

The conclusion is invariably "I'm right, because we're in a terminal stage of individualism at this stage of the empire's decline".


poorwill - 2017-08-11

do flat earthers think the moon is flat too?
do hollow earthers and flat earthers get into fights? this is a dumb question, of course they must


infinite zest - 2017-08-11

You know from that intro that this is gonna be some high quality shit.


Scrotum H. Vainglorious - 2017-08-11

Mmm this whole Internet thing has turned out to be a bad idea after all.


Cena_mark - 2017-08-11

Even as a kid I knew I could make my shadow huge or tiny by how far I was from the lamp. It doesn't take a genius figure this sort of shit out.


Mr. Purple Cat Esq. - 2017-08-11

That is not whats going on. The sun is so far away its light rays may as well be parallel.
The main reason the area where you can see a total eclipse is fairly small is that, you, the moon, and the sun, all need to be perfectly aligned in order for the moon to appear to cover the sun. If you move say 70 miles from the ideal position they'll no longer be aligned from your point of view.


Mr. Purple Cat Esq. - 2017-08-11

On second thought I suppose you could imagine it that way Cena, if you imagine the lamp being way bigger than the object casting the shadow, so the closer the object got to the light source the *smaller* the apparent shadow. Thats not the typical thing one encounters day to day though.


sasazuka - 2017-08-13

It's sort of the opposite, he's wondering why an object as big as the moon casts a much smaller shadow, although the premise of the question isn't really true as he's only talking about the umbra, the absolute centre of the shadow where the sun isn't peeking over the edge of the moon, and not the penumbra, the vast majority of the shadow where the sun is only partially obscured, which is slightly bigger than the diameter of the moon.


Raggamuffin - 2017-08-11

To be a scientist, to dedicate your entire life to the search for truth, only to be dismissed by people because they don't like to listen to poindexters.


sasazuka - 2017-08-14

Something else occurred to me. Let's assume that all of science is wrong and the Earth is flat, just for the sake of argument. How would a 70 mile-wide moon look within a few percent the same size no matter where on the flat Earth you're looking at it from? In one part of the flat world, a 70 mile-wide object would dominate the sky but, 15 thousand miles away, it would be a tiny dot.


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