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Xenocide - 2016-01-31

These are still gold.

Also Alan Young is still playing Scrooge McDuck at the age of 96 (he's the only person to ever voice the character in English) and that makes me happy.


Rangoon - 2016-01-31

Dallas McKennon, Bill Thompson and Will Ryan also voiced Scrooge on separate occasions, but none of them stayed the course as long as Mr. Young.


EvilHomer - 2016-01-31

Better than Steven Universe!


Cena_mark - 2016-01-31

That's fresh. Defending the works of a corporation that's made billions plagiarizing from the public domain.


EvilHomer - 2016-01-31

Better to plagiarize from the public domain, which is legal, than to pillage from copyrighted material, which is not...!

Speaking of which, the whole first season of Dragon Ball Super (the new sequel to DBZ) is now online. The first Fusion doesn't take place until episode 6 or 7, but it should give you some idea of why Rebecca Sugar loved Dragon Ball so much that she felt compelled to steal material from it.


Cena_mark - 2016-01-31

That's just part of artistic cultural exchange. Kurasawa borrowed from the westerns of John Ford and made Yojimbo, then Sergio Leone started turning Kurasawa's samuria westerns into cowboy westerns with A Firstful of Dollars. Rebecca Sugar has borrowed from many animes, but in a few years I'll bet we'll be seeing Animes borrowing stuff right back from her.
Look at this.
http://puu.sh/iMOOF/616c1ccb46.png
It's a screen shot from the anime Little Witch Academia 2 that contains cameos from two members of the Steven Universe crew Rebecca Sugar and Ian Quartey. That shows they're getting respect across the Pacific.


EvilHomer - 2016-01-31

What would anime borrow from her? Her show is like 99% anime content to begin with; an anime that borrowed from Rebecca Sugar would simply be "an anime".

You know what else has cameos in Japanese anime?

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/onanui/imgs/7/1/71520095.jpg

"I guess that means The Bomb is getting respect across the Pacific."


EvilHomer - 2016-01-31

The real irony here is that the anime industry got its start because of Disney. Japanese artists wanted to draw cool cartoons just like Disney did, so they watched a lot of Mickey Mouse and strove to emulate what they saw. Now Rebecca Sugar is trying to rip off anime, so, according to the transitive property, Rebecca Sugar is actually stealing from Disney, too.

The shameless cheek of that woman!


Sanest Man Alive - 2016-01-31

Homer, I honestly don't give a damn that you don't like Steven Universe. I'm mature enough to abide by differing opinions, especially with regards to something as subjective as entertainment.

I only care that you cannot. stop. farting. every day you come in here. Seriously, it's becoming a workplace hazard. Get those fucking farts treated already, I don't care if you have to cement your asshole shut.


EvilHomer - 2016-01-31

See, Cena? When Lamest Man Alive is in your corner, you know you're in trouble.


Cena_mark - 2016-01-31

There's a huge difference between mushroom clouds being featured in anime and a simple nod to a fellow animator. The atom bomb was perhaps the most traumatizing event in Japanese history so it ended inspiring much of it's art. You're really grasping for straws here. You've grasped so many straws you could supply Equestria with hay fries for years.


EvilHomer - 2016-01-31

Speaking of hay fries, were you the person who put that McDonald's Brony video in the hopper? Jordan White is a really nice guy, and I hope we're not encouraging people to bully him.


Cena_mark - 2016-01-31

We don't bully here. We've always opposed interfering with the displays here. As shown with CWC, no one here bullies him, we merely observe.


Harveyjames - 2016-01-31

"Her show is like 99% anime content to begin with; an anime that borrowed from Rebecca Sugar would simply be "an anime"."

No. Rebecca is a very talented artist with a unique style of drawing and storytelling that pulls from a variety of sources- off the top of my head, it looks like she learned as much from Ralph Bakshi as she did Tezuka or Akira Toriyama. But in addition to that, she's got her own special thing going on, and that's something she's developed over a decade of hard work.

You discredit yourself when you say things like that- you know, stuff that anyone can disprove just by looking at Steven Universe on google image search. I'd guess that only a very childish and petulant impulse would cause you to blurt out something that dumb, but since we're grown men arguing over children's cartoons, childish and petulant is probably the most we can aspire to.


EvilHomer - 2016-02-01

Well sure, if you ONLY looked at a Google image search of Sonichu or The Lion King, then of course you're going to have a hard time figuring out just how much material was stolen. When I say Steven Universe is "99% stolen material", I am of course referring to the storylines, characters, and in some cases, even entire cinematographic sequences. Holding a single picture of Steven Universe up against a single picture of Revolutionary Girl Utena, for example, isn't going to tell us much, particularly since Sugar-Chan's crude art style cannot even begin to approximate the artistry found in RGU. We have to look deeper.

Cena's told me a lot about the show, and so far, pretty much everything he's described or clip he's linked was instantly recognizable, quite clearly plagiarized from an anime, video game, or Sources/Misc.

Thank God Mickey Mouse is making a comeback. One can only hope Rebecca Weston will make the mistake of stealing from someone who can actually fight back - someone like Disney - and as a result, have her criminal empire shut down by the House of Mouse's brave legal team.


Harveyjames - 2016-02-01

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Harveyjames - 2016-02-01

You realise copyright law is set up to protect work that's directly inspired by other work, right? I learned a lot about how these laws work by reading the papers from Lady Miss Kier's unsuccessful attempt to sue SEGA in 2006.

Check them out here: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1347124.html

There's absolutely nothing "criminal" about what she's doing, even if it was as blatant as you claim it is. You should educate yourself a bit more about how these laws operate.


Harveyjames - 2016-02-01

You probably think Quentin Tarantino should be put in cuffs too, right? (Don't answer that, it's rhetorical. Also I'm getting the impression you might be mentally unbalanced.)


Binro the Heretic - 2016-01-31

Good, but I still think "Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends" did a better job with this premise.


Hooker - 2016-01-31

I like how the guy that ran off with his girlfriend paid him back with returning Minnie when he was done with her.


Old_Zircon - 2016-01-31

Mickey Mouse is one of the few multi-generation intellectual properties I can think of that has actually been IMPROVED by being more self referential. Still not really for me but I'd honestly take this over most of the golden age Disney.

Disney is kind of the Joe Satriani of animation. It's technically impressive but I just don't get any emotional connection.


Cena_mark - 2016-01-31

I feel the same way about Victor Wooten. When I first started playing bass, some musician friends of mine told me to check out his stuff, while it's rather impressive, it just doesn't move me. Of course he does a lot of jazz, that explains a lot.


Old_Zircon - 2016-01-31

Cena, what is your opinion on Stu Hamm? A friend of mine in middle school who played the bass (poorly) was really in to him. I never saw the appeal.



Also, lest anyone accuse me of being some kind of animation hipster, I'm actually MORE ok with Disney stuff now than as a kid, when I was little (preschool, grade school) I liked it even less. I was also never a huge fan of Sesame Street. It was OK, but they used to show The Muppet Show pretty early in the afternoon on PBS and I got in to that around the same age you're supposed to be watching Sesame Street, so Sesame Street never quite delivered for me. I'd watch it, of course, but the Muppet Show and especially Fraggle Rock were what I really loved. I always thought Big Bird was kind of annoying. I was all about Oscar the Grouch though, which in retrospect was probably a warning sign.


Old_Zircon - 2016-01-31

Now Melvin Jackson, on the other hand...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj0gJelqE_0


Cena_mark - 2016-01-31

I'm not really familiar with either of them. I'll have to check them out.


Old_Zircon - 2016-01-31

Stu Hamm is like the Steve Vai of slick, 80s slapping and popping fusion bass, I think you'll hate him.


Cena_mark - 2016-01-31

I checked out a video of his. I do hate him. Now Matt Freeman. That's a bassist!


infinite zest - 2016-01-31

I've only seen the handful of clips that are posted on here, but I like how it's self-referential without getting annoying, like hip-hop Looney Tunes or more recently the modern-day Bugs Bunny, where he's got a smartphone and hashtags and such and such. Then again it's not like Disney didn't go through their own hip-hop phase..

But to compare it to a musician or composer, it's kind of like Pachelbel. Everybody kinda likes the Canon even if they say that they don't.


infinite zest - 2016-01-31

Aw no fair! You guys had the Muppet Show on PBS? That was the only channel we really had for most of my youth, and I remember the after school programming pretty well: 321 Contact, Reading Rainbow, Captain Kangaroo, and Square One I think was the order. Then came MYSTERY BLOODBATH or whatever. I assume the reasoning was that The Muppet Show had no educational value, but neither did Mystery Bloodbath, and it wouldn't have traumatized me like Mathman!


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