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WHO WANTS DESSERT - 2012-10-06

The progenitors of America engaged in pederasty and participated in arranged marriages with girls as young as 3 years old: Paragons of Morality

Mohammed engaged in a politically-arranged marriage with a little girl who would grow up to be one of the biggest proselytizers of Islam after Mohammed's death and a few sources suggest that he might have consummated the marriage: Literally all Muslims are child molesters


IrishWhiskey - 2012-10-07

While there's sometimes hypocrisy involved in the criticism, unless these "progenitors" of America are literally being held to divine standards, pointing out that people are products of the morals of their time is a criticism of prophets claiming knowledge of eternal morality, but not ordinary people you think had some good ideas.

Also I'm not sure what "one of the biggest proselytizers of Islam" has to do with it. Some of the rules controlling women, including ones that she was subject to, were evil and wrong. That she defended the rules of her culture doesn't change that. I'm not sure what you were going for, but it sounds a little too close to the old "she loved him so it couldn't be abuse" defense.


That guy - 2012-10-07

WWD, this is the comment you want to make after this video? Wing-and-a-prayer, unknowable-history-as-present-moral-status-comparitives apologetics?


poorwill - 2012-10-08

you should never criticise anybody for doing something terrible because somebody else might have done something terrible too and that's not fair >:(


IrishWhiskey - 2012-10-06

Zen Master Lin Chi said "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him". Because people need to spiritually and morally grow, and having a single person or authority to obey would actually be harmful, even if they are wise. Morality is figuring out what's right, not doing what you're told. Otherwise you'll end up defining evil as good, and good as evil.


That guy - 2012-10-07

I met Lin Chi once...


TheOtherCapnS - 2012-10-07

Once...


Rodents of Unusual Size - 2012-10-07

Christians worship a zombie. Muslims worship a pedophile.

I want this guy and everyone like him to swallow poisonous blowfish.


boner - 2012-10-07

8 year olds, Dude.


gmol - 2012-10-07

Indeed, I wonder what the mean age of marriage is, averaged across all of civilization's history? I am guessing it is probably 13 (I know older people from that region who were married at the age of 14).

Here is an example from France I just found (considerably later than Mohammed's time):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_of_Valois

It isn't as if the practice of child brides was limited to the Bedouin.


IrishWhiskey - 2012-10-07

In 1880, the age of consent was 10 in most states but ranged from 7 in Delaware to 12 across nine states and the District of Columbia.

This isn't as horrifying as the fact that these girls could be still made to marry against their will, and once having been sold for a dowry, most states didn't recognize marital rape as a crime.


big pincers - 2012-10-07

also: Mohammed (PBUH) was born without a prepuce, and that's why they cut the pee-pee to this day (PTUI)


Jet Bin Fever - 2012-10-08

I read that as an onomatopoeia for someone chewing off a foreskin and spitting it into a metal pot... "PTUI!"


big pincers - 2012-10-08

that works


Pompoulus - 2012-10-08

Honestly I can't understand why people think this was ever really about a movie.

There have arguably been mild tensions between Muslims and Christians even before the movie.

If it sounds crazy, look it up.


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