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Pillager - 2011-01-12

"Don't retreat, reload"

See also, crosshairs over democrats on a map.

How could anyone blame Mama Grizzly over this shooting?


Bort - 2011-01-12

The pisser is how folks on the right are trying to pick it apart, as if JUST crosshairs on a map would be a part of it, or JUST using the word "reload" would do it. "Oh, so do you think that, if you go into a Target store, they're going to shoot at you?" No, jackass, the issue is that all of it together creates a climate where some few people will be incited to violence, and coincidentally enough it all seems to be coming from the right.

The issue of whether right-wing media actually spurs anyone to violence was settled in Knoxville in July 2008, when one Jim Adkisson opened fire in a Unitarian church because he wanted to kill liberals. He was a big fan of O'Reilly, Savage, and Hannity, and BY SHEER COINCIDENCE his view of the world was consistent with the one he read about in their books. That was a clear-cut case; everything since then has been a matter of refusing to learn the lesson.

Dear right-wing loudmouths: we're not asking for much, just please quit with the rhetoric that could potentially incite a person on the edge every now and again. Yet you're not willing to do that one small thing ... it couldn't be you're kind of happy when liberals get shot, could it?


pastorofmuppets - 2011-01-12

It's not just a few incidents here and there. Making the NYC mosque a wedge issue led to anti-Muslim violence around the country, conveniently centered on the couple of weeks before election day. The pundits know that they have the power to incite. I can only assume they do what all people do when they make money being shitty; they rationalize.


Chalkdust - 2011-01-12

If you crow endlessly about the first amendment, you acknowledge by default that all words have power. When words have consequences that indicate that power was detrimental, and if you do everything possible to deny the fact that words have power, you're a hypocrite.

It should surprise no reasonable person that the conservative movement breeds (and grooms) hypocrites.


dek863 - 2011-01-12

Pure evil.


jangbones - 2011-01-12

Full transcript of the video (for anyone like me who has difficulty listening to her voice for extended periods);

Like millions of Americans I learned of the tragic events in Arizona on Saturday, and my heart broke for the innocent victims. No words can fill the hole left by the death of an innocent, but we do mourn for the victims’ families as we express our sympathy.

I agree with the sentiments shared yesterday at the beautiful Catholic mass held in honor of the victims. The mass will hopefully help begin a healing process for the families touched by this tragedy and for our country.

Our exceptional nation, so vibrant with ideas and the passionate exchange and debate of ideas, is a light to the rest of the world. Congresswoman Giffords and her constituents were exercising their right to exchange ideas that day, to celebrate our Republic’s core values and peacefully assemble to petition our government. It’s inexcusable and incomprehensible why a single evil man took the lives of peaceful citizens that day.

There is a bittersweet irony that the strength of the American spirit shines brightest in times of tragedy. We saw that in Arizona. We saw the tenacity of those clinging to life, the compassion of those who kept the victims alive, and the heroism of those who overpowered a deranged gunman.

Like many, I’ve spent the past few days reflecting on what happened and praying for guidance. After this shocking tragedy, I listened at first puzzled, then with concern, and now with sadness, to the irresponsible statements from people attempting to apportion blame for this terrible event.

President Reagan said, “We must reject the idea that every time a law’s broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.” Acts of monstrous criminality stand on their own. They begin and end with the criminals who commit them, not collectively with all the citizens of a state, not with those who listen to talk radio, not with maps of swing districts used by both sides of the aisle, not with law-abiding citizens who respectfully exercise their First Amendment rights at campaign rallies, not with those who proudly voted in the last election.

The last election was all about taking responsibility for our country’s future. President Obama and I may not agree on everything, but I know he would join me in affirming the health of our democratic process. Two years ago his party was victorious. Last November, the other party won. In both elections the will of the American people was heard, and the peaceful transition of power proved yet again the enduring strength of our Republic.

Vigorous and spirited public debates during elections are among our most cherished traditions. And after the election, we shake hands and get back to work, and often both sides find common ground back in D.C. and elsewhere. If you don’t like a person’s vision for the country, you’re free to debate that vision. If you don’t like their ideas, you’re free to propose better ideas. But, especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible.

There are those who claim political rhetoric is to blame for the despicable act of this deranged, apparently apolitical criminal. And they claim political debate has somehow gotten more heated just recently. But when was it less heated? Back in those “calm days” when political figures literally settled their differences with dueling pistols? In an ideal world all discourse would be civil and all disagreements cordial. But our Founding Fathers knew they weren’t designing a system for perfect men and women. If men and women were angels, there would be no need for government. Our Founders’ genius was to design a system that helped settle the inevitable conflicts caused by our imperfect passions in civil ways. So, we must condemn violence if our Republic is to endure.

As I said while campaigning for others last March in Arizona during a very heated primary race, “We know violence isn’t the answer. When we ‘take up our arms’, we’re talking about our vote.” Yes, our debates are full of passion, but we settle our political differences respectfully at the ballot box – as we did just two months ago, and as our Republic enables us to do again in the next election, and the next. That’s who we are as Americans and how we were meant to be. Public discourse and debate isn’t a sign of crisis, but of our enduring strength. It is part of why America is exceptional.

No one should be deterred from speaking up and speaking out in peaceful dissent, and we certainly must not be deterred by those who embrace evil and call it good. And we will not be stopped from celebrating the greatness of our country and our foundational freedoms by those who mock its greatness by being intolerant of differing opinion and seeking to muzzle dissent with shrill cries of imagined insults.

Just days before she was shot, Congresswoman Giffords read the First Amendment on the floor of the House. It was a beautiful moment and more than simply “symbolic,” as some claim, to have the Constitution read by our Congress. I am confident she knew that reading our sacred charter of liberty was more than just “symbolic.” But less than a week after Congresswoman Giffords reaffirmed our protected freedoms, another member of Congress announced that he would propose a law that would criminalize speech he found offensive.

It is in the hour when our values are challenged that we must remain resolved to protect those values. Recall how the events of 9-11 challenged our values and we had to fight the tendency to trade our freedoms for perceived security. And so it is today.

Let us honor those precious lives cut short in Tucson by praying for them and their families and by cherishing their memories. Let us pray for the full recovery of the wounded. And let us pray for our country. In times like this we need God’s guidance and the peace He provides. We need strength to not let the random acts of a criminal turn us against ourselves, or weaken our solid foundation, or provide a pretext to stifle debate.

America must be stronger than the evil we saw displayed last week. We are better than the mindless finger-pointing we endured in the wake of the tragedy. We will come out of this stronger and more united in our desire to peacefully engage in the great debates of our time, to respectfully embrace our differences in a positive manner, and to unite in the knowledge that, though our ideas may be different, we must all strive for a better future for our country. May God bless America.

- Sarah Palin


pineapplejuicer - 2011-01-12

I have it before and I will say it again: hatefucking. It's the only way.


phalsebob - 2011-01-12

Why bring up 9/11 and the (albeit unnamed) Patriot act.

Anyway... what a horrible fucking bitch.


boner - 2011-01-12

Everything bad that ever happened after 9/11 was caused by 9/11.


OhYouMeanNancy - 2011-01-12

Thanks for the transcript- I made it to about 2 minutes.
It so pains me that our only-human tendencies to gawk at trainwrecks provide the reason for the media to keep giving worthless sewage like her a voice. Even on HuffPo Palin has all kindsa links and references. Creepin' christ, I have never wanted to piss in the teeth of a woman until this broad showed up. *grunt*

Ima go clean my oven now. I'm mad.


TheOtherCapnS - 2011-01-12

Thank you so much jangbones! I thought I was the only one... I got about 10 seconds in and realized that this was really long.


cognitivedissonance - 2011-01-12

The gag is that Giffords isn't even dead, and she obviously loathes having to acknowledge the importance of anybody that isn't immediately related to her in any way THAT DIDN'T EVEN DIE. That's how wildly narcissistic this lunatic is.


Toenails - 2011-01-12

"When we ‘take up our arms’, we’re talking about our vote.”

How the fuck am I suppose to bear votes????


Jet Bin Fever - 2011-01-13

Thanks a LOT for the transcript. I could've never survived watching that soulless Jack-O-Lantern.


Haha.

“We must reject the idea that every time a law’s broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.”

Sounds like Mr. Reagan never took a psychology class on determinants of behavior. No individual is fully accountable for his actions, and completely free will is a myth. We can only act within a certain amount of available choices, and those choices are determined by environment, parents, biological factors, etc etc. So, yes, we have a little choice, but it's more like a shell-script than free will, really, and these other factors are extremely important in giving that person the ability to choose. If those choices are limited by hunger, poverty, mental illness, or other factors... there's not really a choice involved.

I'd hate to tell him that though... I'm sure he was completely accountable for his own actions when he was dying of Alzheimer's and that it WASN'T just the disease that had control over him.


Hammer Falls - 2011-01-12

Wow... I never knew she could tackle words like "criminality". Good job, handlers.


charmlessman - 2011-01-12

Allow me to sum up.

"Boy, that was terrible. Wasn't my fault though!"

Back in the 80s, hip hop was something new and almost entirely underground. But once the 90s rolled around, hip hop artists started winning grammies and garnering respect. Now, in the new millennium, everyone and their brother is doing something with or in relation to hip hop.
The dialogue changed. Even people who, historically had nothing to do with it, are now involved.
The same thing happens to the national discourse. People communicate all across the nation, and when the language turns violent, or even just vitriolic, the tone of the entire dialogue changes. I am not blaming anything directly on Palin, Angle or Bachman. I am, however, blaming them and their ilk for fostering an environment where this tragedy was inevitable. If I were to walk through a crowd of 5 million people and whisper into each of their ears, "Go kill your mother," eventually some nutbag would. Would I then be responsible for that mother's death? No. But I contributed to the situation. The violent imagery, unsubtle innuendos and flaccid denials that have been the purview of the extreme right and those pandering to them is like tossing gunpowder into the room then passing out Marlboros.

So, can I blame Tea Baggers for the 6 deaths and the wounded this weekend? No, not directly. But I sure as fuck blame them for making this possible.


phalsebob - 2011-01-12

They will never admit that they could contribute to an evil, or that anything bad could ever be connected with them. They didn't personally tell Jared to do that specific act so that's the end of the story.

Even if that were the case, let's remember, no conservative is ever responsible for anything bad ever.


La Loco - 2011-01-12

Wait, what's the connection between the popularity of hip-hop in the 80's and 90's and violent political rhetoric?


pineapplejuicer - 2011-01-13

what he means is black people are going to shoot you.


pastorofmuppets - 2011-01-12

Why is that reality TV B-lister commenting on the shooting? At least get Sitch to do it.


CJH - 2011-01-12

Yo, Double G got shot, ya'll. That shit is wack for real.


themilkshark - 2011-01-12

She comes across annoyed that she even has to do this. Well, she didn't have to do anything, this is just more meat for the fucking grinder. Gotta keep the narrative rolling along. Anyone with a little intelligence can see she's got one HELL of a guilty conscience. "Don't DARE blame me! If you blame me, you're WRONG!" Well bitch, you've already blamed yourself. Would have been nice if you could have at least apologized for being so gun happy.


The Mothership - 2011-01-12

"Like many, I’ve spent the past few days reflecting on what happened and praying for guidance. After this shocking tragedy, I listened at first puzzled, then with concern, and now with sadness, to the irresponsible statements from people attempting to apportion blame for this terrible event."

I like how she expresses genuine disbelief that anybody could make the connection between her (and others', let's not forget) rhetoric and violence.


wtf japan - 2011-01-12

While it remains to be proven that Ms. Palin traps and eats Christian children, we can be certain that she regularly poisons wells (of discourse).


Caminante Nocturno - 2011-01-12

Vile bitch.


Chalkdust - 2011-01-12

http://tinyurl.com/4usvybn


posertom - 2011-01-12

"And we will not be stopped from celebrating the greatness of our country and our foundational freedoms by those who mock its greatness by being intolerant of differing opinion and seeking to muzzle dissent with shrill cries of imagined insults."


Palin is trying to muzzle dissent with shrill cries of imagined insults in the same sentence, when she says libs mock america's greatness by being intolerant of differing opinion.


Ocyrus - 2011-01-12

I can't believe anyone that reads from a teleprompter when attempting to be emotional and convey heartfelt sentiment.
I want to personally sterilize each of her children so that her genes will die with her/them.


TeenerTot - 2011-01-12

Too late, Luthor!

Too late.


Riskbreaker - 2011-01-12

I can't think of anything to say anymore, this is just to surreal and revolting at this point. America has become a poorly written fan-fic.


kthorjensen - 2011-01-12

"the beautiful Catholic mass."


The Snickler - 2011-01-12

More "woe is me"-ism from a woman who is pretty sure that anytime anyone says anything about anything it must involve her in some way. I am sure if Sarah had listened to me talk about how runny my oatmeal was this morning she would have thought it was an indictment against her and tweeted about it.


cognitivedissonance - 2011-01-12

"I gave up the second season of my reality TV show with the intention of dedicated the next year to my political career, and the very next week some dipshit in ARIZONA shoots somebody and now that's FUCKED, how do I get in on some of those ironic pistachio commercials now?"


cognitivedissonance - 2011-01-12

Esprit d'escalier:

Now we have to deal with the next few years of every idiot subscriber to "American Spectator" saying that anybody who disagrees with him is engaging in blood libel.


B. Weed - 2011-01-12

Can't stop thinking of the punchline "Only one thing that came out of her vagina was retarded."


TheOtherCapnS - 2011-01-12

I wish I knew more ppl I could tell this horrible, horrible joke to...


That guy - 2011-01-12

Let's "take up arms" and "set our sights" on her and "take her out", or "get rid of" her or "take care of the Palin problem".


That guy - 2011-01-12

Then we can "cross her off" of our "target list".

-metaphorically speaking, of course.


That guy - 2011-01-12

Clearly everyone knows each double meaning without me having to say it.

You're all intolerant. Stop victimizing me.


fermun - 2011-01-12

Sarah Palin is an elaborate troll. No one can be so obtuse.


kamlem - 2011-01-12

3:26 I hope she is not saying that irresponsible public statements could encourage violence!?!

4:02 If men and women were all nice to one another, there would be no sickness, unemployment, accidents or natural disasters.

5:21 If someone is being "evil", verbally threaten to kill them in order to restore good.

6:25 We must protect the legal right of public officials to use unnecessary violent rhetoric (I don't disagree with this). Remember how we failed to do that after 9/11?

May God bless America, because the rest of the world are shaking their heads.


zerobackup - 2011-01-12

What an ignorant, pompously stupid bitch.


Disaster - 2011-01-13

What Obama said: Wonderful speech about the people who were tragically murdered by this lunatic.

What I wish he'd said: Sarah Palin and her whole team are dangerous sociopaths with no regard to how their actions might affect others. They are hereby sentenced to exile in the middle of the ocean in an anchored liner that may or may not be supplied regularly.


Disaster - 2011-01-13

Should be a lunatic not this lunatic.


Disaster - 2011-01-13

stars.


Jet Bin Fever - 2011-01-13

This bitch is terrible at reading a teleprompter. This was an entirely unnecessary video response... she should've just issued a short, apolitical statement expressing sympathy and condolences and that be it. Maybe that would be far too classy for a muckraker like her.


futurebot - 2011-01-15

oh no sarah palin said something stupid again


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