Israel is a technologically advanced nation state massively supported by the most powerful country in the world, Palestine is a politically fractious collection of refugees from ongoing ethnic cleansing continuously subjected to some of the most brutal oppression in the modern world.

Pox, both houses, etc.

you in 1876: man, fuck both the americans and the sioux. both sides are equally bad in this totally symmetrical conflict!

Pox, both houses, etc.

I am not obligated to take a side. This is not my concern. I am neither Jewish nor Muslim. As a Protestant, I’m neither historically tied nor historically responsible for Israel/Palestine. We recognize the holiness of no city.

We pulled this band-aid off 500 years ago, it’s not my problem now, or ever.

Protestants are a famously chill and peaceful religion. America and the British Empire; just chill bros, hangin' out. Not doing near constant war and genocide for 500 years. Definitely not directly causally involved in the formation and stoking of the conflict in Palestine. Nah, just chilling out, worshiping God in a church in a strip mall that looks and feels like a mid-priced hotel conference center.

Don't care, don't need to care, won't care. Not my problem, not my hemisphere. Page me when you're willing to drop a third of the Holy Sepulcher, and we'll tell you it's not anything we care about.

Israel and the current government of Ukraine are illegitimate western constructs used by the US to destabilize their respective regions

Lo fucking L

perhaps attending a rave that is on the other side of a wall holding back millions of prisoners that you have brutally oppressed for generations is a bad idea. at the very least it seems insensitive

these aren't innocent people being attacked randomly, they are colonists reveling amongst unimaginable human suffering that they have directly or indirectly caused. they openly and proudly speak of being superior to those that they oppress

I get that the average Israeli probably has as much control over their government as the average American does... but also every Israeli serves in the IDF. so are any of them 'innocent'?

"It's okay to kill them because they're Israelis" is an excessively bloodthirsty take dude.

another case of terminal edgelord brain over here

the take is 'it's self-defense to kill the people that are militarily occupying your nation and violently oppressing you'

"but not in ukraine obviously because i've regurgitated russian agitprop on here and i'm afraid to admit i could have been wrong or misled on the internet"

I don't oppose the people of Ukraine resisting military occupation, I oppose US/NATO arming them (including a significant number of literal swastika-wearing nazis) in order to prolong the conflict and bleed Russia of military resources, which is the stated goal of our involvement. this isn't some conspiracy theory

if you want to score some kind of ideological consistency 'gotcha!' here then you clearly must support arming the Palestinians with the same gear we send to Ukraine, right? because we 'respect national sovereignty', and after all this is just old mothballed stuff anyway.

Ukraine has a few nazis, Hamas probably has a few extremists too. let's not split hairs: lets send them both shiploads of M1 Abrams tanks so they can avoid being genocided. we can sort it out later