John Holmes Motherfucker - 2022-02-28
Watch it all the way through, even though it'll probably hurt a little.
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Two Jar Slave - 2022-02-28 I can't watch it at all because of RACISM against CANADIANS.
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2022-02-28
The rhetoric is now that white people have become the victims of racism. The sense of victimization is classic.
Here it comes, exactly as promised: wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross, and headed straight up your ass.
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SolRo - 2022-02-28 All the justification needed by the fascists for any coup they attempt in the future.
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Cena_mark - 2022-02-28 The Ukrainians are committing acts of genocide against Russians in the Donbas. Russia is the victims.
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SolRo - 2022-02-28 The Russians are targeting school busses
The Russians are targeting kindergartens
The Russians are searching for shelters and executing all civilians inside
The Russians killed 13 soldiers who told them to go fuck themselves
I could make a long fucking post about unchecked, unproven or false Ukrainian government propaganda that has been propagated reported as fact these last couple days by all wester media.
The point is to verify what’s actually happening, not to blindly trust the propaganda of whichever side you align yourself with.
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Two Jar Slave - 2022-02-28 America its them bad Russians.
Them Russians them Russians and them Chinamen. And them Russians.
The Russia wants to eat us alive. The Russia’s power mad. She wants to take our cars from out our garages.
Her wants to grab Chicago. Her needs a Red Reader’s Digest. Her wants our auto plants in Siberia. Him big bureaucracy running our fillingstations.
That no good. Ugh.
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casualcollapse - 2022-03-01 bit of irony there isnt it, right after you said The point is to verify what’s actually happening, not to blindly trust the propaganda of whichever side you align yourself with.
those troops on the island liiiiiive
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Spike Jonez - 2022-03-01 The Ukrainians are murdering Jews. Again.
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uwoeh - 2022-03-01 I appreciate that someone (Two Jar Slave) has cited Ginsberg as part of this argument. I am still awaiting the day when I can go into the grocery store and buy something with my good looks.
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Crackersmack - 2022-02-28
this is what you get when class analysis is forbidden
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Cena_mark - 2022-02-28 That's probably one of the reasons why they reject teaching about racism, because it also exposes flaws in capitalism
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Crackersmack - 2022-02-28 they aren't even conscious of it; they have been brainwashed by media and politics to identify only as a race and to be blind to their own class status
class solidarity is the number one threat to the existing power structure and that's why it's imperative to keep us all fighting over pointless culture war shit
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2022-02-28 I think Crackersmack may be correct this time. Someone should get ready to release the flying pigs, just in case.
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2022-02-28 I go back and forth on this.
>>>class solidarity is the number one threat to the existing power structure
Now THAT's a depressing thought
>>>they aren't even conscious of it; they have been brainwashed by media and politics to identify only as a race and to be blind to their own class status
When you're struggling to get by, someone else ahead of you in line to get ass raped is your only advantage. The thought of losing your little bit of privilege is terrifying. I've experienced this fear. Being 2nd in the assraping line is such a tiny bit of privilege, but the less privilege you have, the more you need it.
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Crackersmack - 2022-03-01 nobody on the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder in America thinks of themselves as privileged, the maga chuds recognize that they are considered expendable/deplorable by those in power, but they also think that the "others" are actually getting something from society/government (housing, money, healthcare, education) which of course just isn't occurring in any substantial way
so really it's about two downtrodden segments of society that each feel that the other is privileged, because it seems unbelievable that things really are as bad as they are for so many people in this country; "clearly everybody else is doing OK/getting what they need and it's just my segment that is being oppressed"
the way to combat this would be to 1. use government to address the material needs of the bottom 1/3rd of the economy, and see how they treat each other when they don't have to live in the Hunger Games or 2. just dump shittons of cash on completely unaccountable police departments and let them loose on an increasingly desperate and disenfranchised population
both political parties have enthusiastically chosen option #2, and pretend that option #1 is just completely insane or impossible
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ashtar. - 2022-03-01 Yeah, the effective response to manufactured culture war outrages like this is "we will give you healthcare."
No amount of "ACTUALLY CRT is..." is going to dispel this, as should be obvious from all the previous instances of this shit.
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Crackersmack - 2022-03-01 exactly; the libs are jumping immediately to the sneering and haven't done anything to make people have to tolerate that shit in the first place
there hasn't been a material incentive to tolerate liberal governance in a very long time, and wouldn't you know it as a result we have the most insane rightwing lunatics just winning by default in huge portions of the country
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2022-03-01 >>>No amount of "ACTUALLY CRT is..." is going to dispel this, as should be obvious from all the previous instances of this shit.
That's not entirely true. People who just want to know what this is about will benefit from an honest, informative answer.
The best game to be playing here is the long one. The two part Motherfucker plan.
1. Learn what CRT is. I may be halfway there.
2. Ask every Republican to explain what CRT is, especially candidates. Ask questions. See if you can get them to do it on tape.
They're impervious to facts, ,but I suspect that they're far more vulnerable to seeing something really stupid they said go viral on youtube. I don't think that'll be too hard. Don't bother explaining anything to anyone who doesn't want to know. Get em talking, encourage them to go into detail, get it on tape, watch em squirm, and have fun with it.
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Crackersmack - 2022-03-01 the idea that you are going to win some kind of debate and get maga chuds to reconsider their views on crt or get dirt poor white people to consider themselves privileged is liberal magical thinking, just total delusional shit
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Crackersmack - 2022-03-01 to be clear I know this is not your idea alone John, it's literally the strategy of the political party that has complete control of the federal government right now
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2022-03-01 >>>nobody on the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder in America thinks of themselves as privileged,
I myself argued against the concept of white privilege in here just a few years ago. It's one of those terms like "male gaze" that offends you before you understand, if you ever do. Maybe there's a better way to phrases things?
Poor whites know they have an advantage over poor blacks, and the thought of losing that is terrifying. To me, anyway. I have experienced that fear.
Health care is very much relevant. We need a society where your privilege isn't something you depend on to keep your family safe.
Gotta go just gonna hit the button. pardon the mistakes.
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2022-03-01 I have faith that the liars will be exposed.
I have much less faith that the world will be saved.
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2022-03-01
>>>the idea that you are going to win some kind of debate and get maga chuds to reconsider their views on crt or get dirt poor white people to consider themselves privileged is liberal magical thinking, just total delusional shit
That is some cracksmackin good nonsense right there!
Look, it's real simple. They're lying, so I'm going to tell the truth.
Is it a way to win? I don't know. It's the truth.
>>>the idea that you are going to win some kind of debate and get maga chuds to reconsider their views on crt or get dirt poor white people to consider themselves privileged is liberal magical thinking, just total delusional shit
Readers of English will note that I specifically said not to bother trying anyone's mind. Is someone reading my posts to you? Maybe you could get them to read a little more slowly.
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2022-03-02 If there is anything we should have learned by now, it is that arguing with the MAGAGAs is pointless, counterproductive, and no fun. If you're having fun, that may be a sign that you're doing harm. No one's mind is changed by being treated like an idiot, especially idiots. You flat out shouldn't engage with the MAGAGAs if you can't be respectful, and since most MAGAGAs are brain-dead sister-fucking morons, being respectful can be a challenge.
But there are plenty of ordinary Americans who don't fuck their sisters wondering what the fuck CRT is right now, and that is your opportunity, not to save the world, but to help someone find access to accurate information they need to do the right thing. As I have already indicated, I'm not sure that the world can be saved.
The best thing that you can do with the sister-fuckers is let them talk. Get them to go into detail. Get them on the record. Maybe the lies will collapse under their own weight. It's happened before. I don't know how one person saying "AT LONG LAST, HAVE YOU NO DECENCY?" could have managed to destroy Joseph McCarthy, and I think it was probably a whole lot of people speaking the truth to a whole lot of other people, creating the backdrop for that one final push.
I feel that I may have been unnecessarily harsh toward sister-fucking, which, unlike being a Republican, is a victimless crime. Please understand, I come from a family of all brothers.
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2022-03-01
>>>to be clear I know this is not your idea alone John, it's literally the strategy of the political party that has complete control of the federal government right now
Honestly, don't you think that
>>>>>>the idea that you are going to win some kind of debate and get maga chuds to reconsider their views
is pretty close to what you do in here every day, over and over? How many minds have you changed so far? This isn't counting people who used to not hate you.
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2022-03-01 Oh my god, that is mean,.
I'm not presuming that I hurt your feelings, but I'm sorry for being mean.
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