SolRo - 2017-04-02
Give it another week or two before trump and/or his handlers start crippling Obamacare just make sure it fails.
It's entirely possible he could screw it up so badly that it actually does fail, thus forcing some democrats to vote with republicans on a bad bill that is still better than the burning, sabotaged husk of obamacare.
That would still depend on republicans having the slightest understanding of healthcare and making a bill that isn't just a tax dodge for the rich and slightly better than the flaming wreckage of an intentionally destroyed obamacare, but I'm pessimistic about that as well.
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Old_Zircon - 2017-04-02 Yeah, behind the scenes of the Trump circus we've already lost decades of social progress and it's only been a few months.
Incidentally, it should surprise nobody but the other day the administration finally publicly stated that TPP would be "the starting point" for their own international trad policies and negotiations, so anyone who actually thought Trump's opposition to the TPP was at all in line with the leftist rhetoric he was throwing around in the election, unfortunately the joke's on all of us.
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Shanghai Tippytap - 2017-04-02
good news story or not, this sounds like a fucking mess. the fact that what should be a no-brainer bill on rape kits was being purposely obstructed, and had to be loopholed in to get voted on sounds insane
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SolRo - 2017-04-02 Are you just now catching on?
The American political system's primary purpose for at least 40 years now has been for those who are in power to stay in power and to "win" against the opposition party. It's less common for democrats but an absolute for republicans.
Unfortunately the American voters are mostly too dumb to notice or apathetic care about this, thus making it a very effective method of gaining votes and staying in power.
Some republicans are even finally admitting that their opposition to obamacare for the last 10 years was a complete and utter sham meant only to rile up their base and help them win elections. That's right, hundreds of separate votes, thousands of hours of work, millions of tax dollars used pay them, hundred of millions spent on SuperPAC ads...all intended to help no one except their own party win elections.
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SolRo - 2017-04-02 and for reference;
the secondary purpose is to enrich themselves and their donors.
the tertiary purpose is to suck up and do the bidding of powerful industry groups to gain donors and future highly paid lobbyist gigs.
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Maggot Brain - 2017-04-02 that's kind of a really good point, Aernaroth2. The bill says nothing as to how this program is to funded. in addition, The bill doesn't even guarantee that the back-log of kits are to be tested only that new kits are to be tested and that report be made on the back-log of kits that is to be sent to the Governors office.
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Old_Zircon - 2017-04-02 "Oscar Wildcat
As vile as rapists are, they are still american citizens, and deserve representation. "
This is a point that isn't made enough. As understandable as it is on an emotional level, the bipartisan unpersoning (legally an socially) of sex offenders does far more harm than good and is right down there with felons not having the right to vote.
And that's not even taking in to account the fact that the people who are actually charged and convicted of these sorts of crimes (and crimes in general) are disproportionately ethnic minorities and the poor.
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Oscar Wildcat - 2017-04-02 While I was being sarcastic, I suppose you have a legitimate point. Justice is hardly administered in an even and consistent way, and some of what we call felonies are absurd.
What bothers me in practice is that after the last election, I have real fears that a Pro rape/murder/fraud party would sweep the polls. For it's only a tiny step from "get rid of all regulations" to "get rid of all laws". All those fraud statutes are terrible for the business community, for example.
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SolRo - 2017-04-02 Eh, it just won the last election.
stand your ground laws = pro murder
tort 'reform' and support of arbitration = pro fraud
and while there isn't a specific pro-rape single platform in the republican party, they sure are eager to defend and excuse rich white rapists.
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