That's because likability gets you nowhere! You have to be able to inspire terror and despair.

It'll get you a pundit job on Fox News afterwards.

That's true. Huckabee sure is likable.

Ok, likability gets you that much, but not by itself. Cain won't even get a TV show.

A country actually enforcing its immigration laws and protecting its borders? Ridiculous.

Oh come now, you can't tell me you don't see that slight peppering of racism all over this, right? Aside of that I agree with you though; way too many people are quick to call anyone in favor of enforced border control racist.

It's funny because I grew up in Southern California as a half-breed Mexican, and 90% of the Mexicans I knew who's families came her legally hated illegal Mexicans more than the white people who I knew who hate them did.

But then, my Mexican grandfather came here illegally and I thus I wouldn't be alive if not for illegal Mexican border hopping. Hmmm.

I'm torn really.

Mexico is quite ruthless with their immigration laws, so are other first world countries. Cain is not going for any common ground here, just catch phrases and scare tactics "THEY WILL STEAL JOBS AND MURDER YOUR CHILDREN AND MAKE US ALL DANCE JARABE TAPATIO!"

A country that relies on migrant labor to grow its food enforcing its borders as if it were Dachau or a nightmare from the Iron Curtain? More of that please! It's sure to get rid of this Nazi stigma that we Republicans have had to deal with ever since George Bush's grandfather funded Hitler.

I bet Equestria doesn't have to deal with this kind of shit.

Cena can you think of any other country with an electrified barb wire fence surrounding its borders?

You do realize that he went back on this statement and said it was a joke right? So you probably shouldn't be defending it.

North Korea has landmines and machine gun nests, does that count?

The United States: Not as Bad as North Korea

I should have said first world nations that aren't in a perpetual state of war. But then America wouldn't make the cut I guess.

Yeah, my first thought was.. "wow, something he and the DPRK agree on!"

I'm aware that the electric fence is a joke and unrealistic, but there is often truth to humor. The truth being that we do need to tighten up control of the border. So I wasn't defending that. I'm defending Cain from Liberals who'd be quick to call him a racist.
I'm not anti immigrant. Before joining the Coast Guard I was living in the Mexican part of Atlanta. Let people in legally. Do it the right way, I'm tired of people making a mockery out of our laws.

if you are sick of people making a mockery of this country's laws then you must be a full fledged supporter of the OWS movement, no?

I don't support OWS, but I do believe white collar criminals should be punished for their crimes.

But are you willing to support legislation declaring things and practices, like bundling debt that a company knows is the most likely to fail into derivatives and not informing the people its selling them to about what they're actually buying, illegal? Most "conservatives" think that's over-regulation, in spite of it being pretty much the equivalent of selling someone botulism as a health supplement.

Weren't you half Mexican, Cena?

I will agree that we need to ensure that people are here legally, or else it's unfair to those who made it through the process to get here legally. But joking about killing people and dehumanizing them to the cheers of crowds of white people is not the best way to have that conversation.

I'm not saying it's racism, but it's racism.

India's border with Pakistan is now clearly visible from space at night due to floodlights erected to deter jihadists from infiltrating.

According to Gwynne Dyer Pentagon planners have considered contingency plans for a flood of starving Latino climate change refugees including a fence with stern warnings, and a 10m wide trench with mines, and remotely operated machine guns on towers.

By then, of course, the fence would have to roughly follow the Mason-Dixon line to Oregon.

We can only hope.

Hmmm.... maybe the sign should be in Spanish!

Git yourself an arf and buckets o' ammo now.

Don't worry, there won't be any blood on the streets. Violent revolution will boil down to of a bunch of confused angry people tipping over cars and looting the Gap in designated riot zones as usual.

Corporations are people friend!

I think by "likeable" you're saying "not quite as batshit Teabagger whoop-whoop-crazy as the other people running."

Which is, as some have pointed out, like being the tallest midget in the circus.

Cain's pretty much done. During the last debate, he had to backtrack on just about every talking point, got hammered on his tax plan (from the other GOPer loonies who are putting forth yet another soak-the-un-rich "Flat Tax" plan), and pretty much had to claim everything he said was taken wrong, was a joke, or was a mis-statement.

Buh-bye, Herman. Have fun "debating" with Bachmann, 'cause that's about as serious as your candidacy has become, short of a meteor killing everyone else in the race.